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Leo Ariel's avatar

Hey Chris! What was your biggest takeaway from the podcast? I’m thinking of listening to it ..

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Chris Cordry, LMFT's avatar

From a coaching perspective, I think the most important point Matt makes is about bias to action. Ending each conversation with at least one clear to-do item to follow up on is fundamental. From a CEO perspective, he has a lot of good ideas about hiring. One thing he talked about that I have *not* heard from others is how useful the chief-of-staff position can be and how to use shadowing to help train someone for that.

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Leo Ariel's avatar

Just listened to the podcast today. Was a great one. Thanks for the rec! 🙏

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Eric Ho's avatar

I listened to the Tim Ferriss podcast a few weeks ago doing day 9 of the Pennine Way. The advice Matt Michael gives about hiring people is excellent!

I know he coaches CEOs but I found his coaching style overly directive. It’s not my style and many will like it, but I do wonder how much of the thinking that a client might generate themselves - from their own yet-to-be-uncovered ideas and resources is squashed with such an approach.

Would love to chat about that EFT course you’re doing!

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Chris Cordry, LMFT's avatar

Hi Eric! I've actually always wanted to do one of those long walks in northern England.

I agree that Matt's coaching style was quite directive. I wonder how different what he did on the podcast was from what he would do in a longer private session. I can see where with CEOs, there could be a lot of value in sharing his own best practices for running a company. The part that turned me off, on the other hand, was when he assumed Tim was wrong about potential risks. I would be much more curious to delve into that and find out where Tim was coming from.

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Lucy's avatar

I really like that Wendell Berry poem, especially the few prior lines:

Geese appear high over us,

pass, and the sky closes. Abandon,

as in love or sleep, holds

them to their way, clear

in the ancient faith: what we need

is here.

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Chris Cordry, LMFT's avatar

Ah, that's beautiful. Thank you, Lucy!

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